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Author Gordon
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#1 | Posted: 13 Jul 2017 14:33 
Hi Just found your web sight very helpful.
I have recently found a minisai at my local club witch I am curently trying to obtain I dont know wether it has sail boom mast dager board or rudder.
I would like to get it back on the water and in a racable condition.
its not great but I think worth doing.
I would be very graitfull for any help in identifying the boat as I dont have a sail number to go with.
How do I join the assosiation?
Regards to all.
Gordon

Author RonnyDG
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#2 | Posted: 13 Jul 2017 19:44 | Edited by: RonnyDG 
Gordon you might be surprised how many Minisail there are.
There used to be a great identification guide on the Minisail website, i'll need to put it back there but for the time being you can see it here:
Minisail identification guide
Let us know what model you have please.

Hull and/or sailnumber; With a bit of luck you can find it stamped in the mastpot collar, if there is one. Else we can only estimate the building period.

If you are serious about getting it fit to race you might consider already contacting Morgan sails for a new sail (https://morgan-sails.com/dinghy-classes/minisail/).

Saved the easy part for last: membership. To become a member you need to own and sail a Minisail, that's all.

Greetings,
Ronny

Author Gordon
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#3 | Posted: 13 Jul 2017 23:07 
Hi Ronny,
Thank you I am almost in on the membership I will let you know as soon as I have it back to my brothers farm to fettle it.
And to keep you posted on progress of course,
Thank you for your link most helpful . It pretty much confirms what I had red on the web sight its a monaco Mk 2.
Also thank you for the link for the sails.
The next time I am down at the club I will try and get the number from the mast collar.
So just to get it right if I order a new sail this is the number that should be put on the sail?
Changing the subject I couldn't believe it when I saw the Nationals were going to be at Roford .
My partner sail her fireball there earlier in the year . I hope to be joining you may be next year wonce I have it fettled or some open meetings.
Exelent I am really enthusiastic now kind regards
Gordon

Author RonnyDG
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#4 | Posted: 14 Jul 2017 21:11 | Edited by: RonnyDG 
Yes, it would be correct if the hull number matched the sail mumber.
Fingers crossed there is a (1) a collar and (2) a number- if there is no number remove the collar to find out if it's visible on the other side.

The Minisail Nationals 2017 in the wake of a CVRDA meeting at Roadford were cannceled due to a series of unforeseen circumstances. Read: very few Minisails were expected to attend.
Still, we are looking to reschedule for later in the year, venue to be confirmed.

Author Gordon
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#5 | Posted: 21 Jul 2017 12:10 
Hi Ronny,
I was down at the sailing club and got the boat out ther looks like a wooden collar but I couldnt see a number I hope to pick it up tomorow with any luck so I can get it back and work on it.
I will keep you posted.
Regards
Gordon

Author RonnyDG
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#6 | Posted: 21 Jul 2017 22:13 
A wooden collar is an item a previous owner must have mounted, The original was plastic.
The material the collar is made of isn't important, but chanses are dim the serial number will soon be revealed.
Still, there might be something in writing on a mast, a tiller or other item. Worth checking once you have all the bits.

Author Gordon
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#7 | Posted: 22 Jul 2017 21:54 
Hello Ronny. I am definitely a member of the class association now don't know if its a mid life crisis
Or I am having a wobily moment .
I am now after a 600 mile round trip the owner of two mini sails one a sprite and one a Monaco.
The Monaco I haven't got of the roof of the car as I am a little tired.
This is the one I resqued from my local sailing club I have nothing other than the hull body.
I know I should have asked first but eBay and impulse buys with out looking wear the items are collect only.
Are the masts inter changeab?
I have a rudder that looks serviceable the center board fell out and disintegrated so I will have to make one as any one got drawings or know were
I can get some?
Thank you once again.
Ha do you have a list of venues were I could meet up with other mini sail enthusiasts to give me some sailing tips.
All the best Gordon

Author RonnyDG
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#8 | Posted: 23 Jul 2017 01:02 
Don't worry Gordon, the symptoms are clear: You have turned Minisail-magnetic.
It's a harmless temporary digression well known among Minisail enthousiasts.

Is it a dished decked or a cockpit wooden Sprite?

Most if not all parts will fit the Monaco.
The drawing for a centerboard here:
https://minisail9000.files.wordpress.com/2017/07/daggerboard.jpg

If you are based South, the men to get in touch with are Tom and David. Tom has send an invite on this forum here

Consider joining the CVRDA and meet up at the events, plenty of like-minded people meeting and racing there.

Author Gordon
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#9 | Posted: 23 Jul 2017 07:42 
Thank you Ronny that's brilliant I can make the danger board for the Monaco .
Would you have the drawing for the sprint swinging center board sorry previously miss spelt, not my strong point.
I am based at Starcross Exeter.
I have had no luck locating the owner of the abandoned Monaco I feel there must be a sail and mast in the back of some ones garage for it ,
Most frustrating.
Is it possible to post photos on the forum?
It would be helpful for someone to comment on the best way to approach what I a) have bought.
B) should be the best approach, as I am sure that other people have taken on major restoration.
The sprint is a mk2 open transome with GRP top deck cockpit.
Thank you once again for all the help.
Gordon

Author RonnyDG
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#10 | Posted: 23 Jul 2017 22:13 
So it's a Sprint MII you have.
Rob, here on this forum, has restored a neglected Sprint to near showroom condition some years ago. Maybe pass the link of the Photobucket album of the rebuilt Rob.

I'll trace the centerboard of my Meson on paper and make it available in pdf format asap (No room in the workshop now to put the boat on strongbacks and remove the centerboard).
If the centerbolt is snugly mounted in the centerboard case don't attempt to remove it, the board fits in without removing the bolt.

Sorry, this forum doesn't support posting pictures. You will have to post them elsewhere and provide the link.
Having some images will greatly help to see what needs to be done.

For the missing Monaco sailnumber, in the end I think you will be free to pick any number at random. Something in the range between 1.000 up to 7.000 would be realistic.
There is a tiny chance the number you chose is taken, if the situation occurs be a sport and change the number.

Author Gordon
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#11 | Posted: 24 Jul 2017 22:39 
That's very good of you to remove and make a drawing for everyone.
Thank you as an when.
Another question I am afraid my partner asked me on my return did I get the registration certificate.
I looked at her a bit quizzical and said what do you mean? You do intend racing you're boat . Yes that was the general idea darling.
Well she said you need all the documents.
I thought all I needed was to get it measured is there someone in the association that can do this once I have a boat that I can compeat with?
Apparently according to my better half all boats come with a registration document is this so and is there any way of getting a duplicate document?
I haven't given up on tracking down a number on the Monaco I also want to put an add on the notice board at the club with some pictures t try and jog peoples memories.
I am in the same situation I have limited space and was trying to think how I can get the boats high enough to work on I think I wbe constructing a special set of tresels.

Author rob baker
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#12 | Posted: 25 Jul 2017 00:10 
Hi Gordon,

http://s1149.photobucket.com/user/aquabatdinghy/library/Minisprint%20rebuild?sort=4&p age=1

link to my sprint re build album, any questions please ask

Rob

Author rob baker
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#13 | Posted: 25 Jul 2017 00:23 
Gordon,
You do not need any sort of certificates for any of the Minisail variants, just insurance.
Rob

Author Gordon
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#14 | Posted: 25 Jul 2017 11:56 
Hi Rob, wow! that is an impresive restoration album . Thank you for the link thats a great help I will be studing the photos.
Thank you also ref the certification aspect.
All the best Gordon

Author rob baker
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#15 | Posted: 25 Jul 2017 18:53 
Problem is Gordon, photo's are out of context now, there was a very detailed thread regarding re-build on original website, I will however be able to answer questions regarding ant particular photo and the process to achieve it.
For instance the bar on brown wings was dangerous and had to be removed.
The boat in it's present state, carries the white much larger wings, these are far superior to brown smaller wings,
white wings allow more fore and aft movement, plus they are slightly wider.
Brown wings are available for free if you want to try wings instead of sliding plank, these are at my club in west brom.

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